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ricky
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crazy idea?

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Premier drums {and some other drum companies} make an 8"x20" bass drum,I want to get one and trick it out cocktail style and use it just as a kick.It would be real low to the floor and I think I could mount the tom holder to a cymbal stand and put the pedal under it.Does anyone think this may work or be cool? Tell me what you guys think.thanks
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Post by mangorockfish »

It might work. Really no reason it wouldn't. Pretty much anything goes around here, especially if it works. Good luck.
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From Peter Lau

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Hi!

This picture is for Ricky?s?Crazy Idea?.Just want to offer a little help.Hmmm?..I'm not really good at putting it on words.So,I just simply draw a simple set-up.

Since the 20x8 bass is quite big.I think he may need 4 legs to support!Ricky,You can use a Cymbal Boom Stand,and attached all the Snare,Tom,and Hi-Hat to it.Well,Hope this little idea can offer some help for you.

Thanks and have a good try!

Regards,

Peter Lau

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Re: crazy idea?

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ricky wrote:Does anyone think this may work or be cool? Tell me what you guys think.thanks
Hey Ricky,

I think that you could set it up like that but I can see two possible problems:

The first is playing the top head! :>) It's going to be realllly lowwww. ANd of course it is going to have a much more similar sound as the batter head since it is such a large drum.

The other thing that I am not sure about is stability. I guess a larger diameter will make things more stable. But then you will have to have longer mounting arms to get things at a good height. What do the engineers in the crowd think?

- John
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Post by fw »

What do you think of mounting the drums in sort of an offset cone pattern from high to low pitch, like



____ 10"


________ 12"


______________ 14"


______________________ 16"



_______________________________ 18"



_________________________________________ 20"


It would be a pain to play, but it would look sweet, and any fill you did would make you look like a superstar. You could use those old remo legero toms. Actually, you can pick those sets up used on ebay for like $200 now, and that would give you a 10, 13, 16, and a 22, none more than 6.5" deep, all single headed. That set would convert into a crazy cocktail set in a second, and it's really portable. I used to own one--the high tom is great, the 13 is so so, the piccolo snare is outstanding, the 16 is kind of weak, and the bass isn't bad.

Also, did you ever see any photos of Alice Cooper's old drummer--the Canadian guy who replaced Neal Smith in the 70's for one tour? He had two bass drums mounted cocktail style and kept all his toms parallel to the ground. Totally sweet.

I'm playing a 10x26" Ludwig scotch marching bass on my set right now--the sound is outstanding. It doesn't get lost with the bass player or get muddy, it has a great tuning range, a complex sound, and a gigantic dynamic range. It's great for low volume jazz or for heavy Bonham type playing. I think the trend toward 18" depth bass drums is cool, but shallow bass drums are really underrated. People used to play like 28x 8" bass drums and weird sizes like that in the twenties, and they were perfect in jazz contexts.

Good Luck!

Will
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crazy idea

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thanks everyone for the advice,I am pretty sure I won't be using the 8x20 for a floor tom,just as the bass{john...your right,it would be way to low!} anyway thanks for your time...when this comes together...snare,harware,cymbals,ect. I will post a picture and get everyones' feedback,and I will try various mounts and what not to support the weight of the drum,thanks guys.
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